Considering its overrepresentation in SCs, I think Vtuber corps in general should cater more to Argentina. It is clearly the weebiest country on earth.
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I think having an EU schedule is good praxis regardless. You get the most audience overlap in that slot. NA mornings, EU afternoons, and South/East Asia Evenings.
The fact this isn't the normal approach is strange to me. Instead of streaming when most vtuber fans are awake, most everyone streams when only one fraction of that audience is available.
The fact this isn't the normal approach is strange to me. Instead of streaming when most vtuber fans are awake, most everyone streams when only one fraction of that audience is available.
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Every single Argentinian superchat combined across the entirety of Hololive likely provides a lower financial value than the average "hey Gura it's my birthday, I'm 14 today!!" USD superchat.
As a Euro, I think it's been quite well determined at this point that Euros spend less on streaming than Americans, even adjusting for differences in income.
Streaming is just not that well-established an entertainment industry here, and on top of that I think people are a lot more reticent to spend their disposable income on it.
I have some hypotheses on why that is, from language barriers creating very small potential audiences that cannot sustain streaming as a viable career, to just a smaller amount of social atomisation that still has a larger percentage of people interacting IRL and not feeling the need to engage in parasocial relationships. I don't think the fact that Japan, other East Asian countries and the US lead on this field is incidental here.
Streaming is just not that well-established an entertainment industry here, and on top of that I think people are a lot more reticent to spend their disposable income on it.
I have some hypotheses on why that is, from language barriers creating very small potential audiences that cannot sustain streaming as a viable career, to just a smaller amount of social atomisation that still has a larger percentage of people interacting IRL and not feeling the need to engage in parasocial relationships. I don't think the fact that Japan, other East Asian countries and the US lead on this field is incidental here.
Hey man, that's like a fifth of the total superchats from the EUThat's like, a whole 5 bucks extra!
It's what I was complaining about when Advent debuted. Eurotrash were complaining about "waah, why don't we get more streamers dedicated to us!" and they couldn't even show up in force for the monetization streams. Take the Fuwamoco monetization stream for example.
During their monetization stream, USD alone dropped 2,273,637 YEN while the EU currencies combined dropped barely a tenth of that. They barely beat the fucking Canadians that dropped 225,427 YEN. The EUR itself was only 118,552 YEN. The cope was that "it wasn't during an EU friendly timezone!" but they held their Fuwamoco morning the next day at 8am PST (5PM CEST) and those European currencies barely did better than USD.
Across their first 2 monetized streams:
| Currency | Region | Total in YEN |
|---|---|---|
| USD | United States | 2,328,634 |
| YEN | Japan | 731,038 |
| CAD | Canada | 232,099 |
| EUR | Europe | 139,569 |
| AUD | Australia | 103,079 |
| GBP | United Kingdom | 83,709 |
| TWD | Taiwan | 82,676 |
| SGD | Singapore | 80,231 |
| KRW | South Korea | 65,438 |
| HKD | Hong Kong | 56,732 |
| MYR | Malaysia | 46,382 |
| PLN | Poland | 30,612 |
| BRL | Brazil | 30,130 |
| MXN | Mexico | 28,355 |
| SEK | Sweden | 27,456 |
| IDR | Indonesia | 26,727 |
| PHP | Philippines | 19,354 |
| NOK | Norway | 17,055 |
| NZD | New Zealand | 10,371 |
| CLP | Chile | 10,050 |
| THB | Thailand | 9,983 |
| PEN | Peru | 5,804 |
| CRC | Costa Rica | 3,945 |
| VND | Vietnam | 3,941 |
| ARS | Argentina | 3,399 |
| ISK | Iceland | 3,227 |
| CZK | Czech Republic | 2,252 |
| CHF | Switzerland | 1,624 |
| HUF | Hungaria | 1,360 |
| BYN | Belarus | 1,122 |
| COP | Colombia | 1,095 |
| DKK | Denmark | 1,047 |
| SAR | Saudi Arabia | 944 |
| UYU | Uruguay | 565 |
| INR | India | 342 |
| GTQ | Guatemala | 252 |
| BOB | Bolivia | 204 |
| Region | Total in YEN |
|---|---|
| NA (USD/CAD/MXN) | 2,589,088 |
| ASIA (Excluding Australia, New Zealand, and India) | 1,122,502 |
| EU (All European Currencies) | 309,033 |
| LATAM (Excluding Mexico) | 82,704 |
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クソ野郎 is clearly a True and Honest Argentinian gifting memberships and dropping AkaSupas like there is no tomorrow in ARS
Well, should be interesting to see if they can put up or shut up. I am not gonna count them out, but I am not expecting much. I just want people for Kiara to hang out with.Hey man, that's like a fifth of the total superchats from the EU
It's what I was complaining about when Advent debuted. Eurotrash were complaining about "waah, why don't we get more streamers dedicated to us!" and they couldn't even show up in force for the monetization streams. Take the Fuwamoco monetization stream for example.
During their monetization stream, USD alone dropped 2,273,637 YEN while the EU currencies combined dropped barely a tenth of that. They barely beat the fucking Canadians that dropped 225,427 YEN. The EUR itself was only 118,552 YEN. The cope was that "it wasn't during an EU friendly timezone!" but they held their Fuwamoco morning the next day at 8am PST (5PM CEST) and those European currencies barely did better than USD.
Across their first 2 monetized streams:
Currency Region Total in YEN USD United States 2,328,634 YEN Japan 731,038 CAD Canada 232,099 EUR Europe 139,569 AUD Australia 103,079 GBP United Kingdom 83,709 TWD Taiwan 82,676 SGD Singapore 80,231 KRW South Korea 65,438 HKD Hong Kong 56,732 MYR Malaysia 46,382 PLN Poland 30,612 BRL Brazil 30,130 MXN Mexico 28,355 SEK Sweden 27,456 IDR Indonesia 26,727 PHP Philippines 19,354 NOK Norway 17,055 NZD New Zealand 10,371 CLP Chile 10,050 THB Thailand 9,983 PEN Peru 5,804 CRC Costa Rica 3,945 VND Vietnam 3,941 ARS Argentina 3,399 ISK Iceland 3,227 CZK Czech Republic 2,252 CHF Switzerland 1,624 HUF Hungaria 1,360 BYN Belarus 1,122 COP Colombia 1,095 DKK Denmark 1,047 SAR Saudi Arabia 944 UYU Uruguay 565 INR India 342 GTQ Guatemala 252 BOB Bolivia 204 Germany, Italy, Spain, and France can't even compete with Canada. Even better is if you don't count the UK, Canada beats the entire continental Europe.
Region Total in YEN NA (USD/CAD/MXN) 2,589,088 ASIA (Excluding Australia, New Zealand, and India) 1,122,502 EU (All European Currencies) 309,033 LATAM (Excluding Mexico) 82,704
Same same. If I want to be mad over politics or argue with rando's over gender issues, I've got Tumblr for that. Vtubing is where I know I can just turn brain off & not worry about getting jumpscared by some /pol/ troll asking for opinions on Israel or trans kids or whatever.
Being fair, I've also seen a few British and Norwegian oilers around, although of course they can't make up for the difference compared to NA.I know you are shitposting, but Kiara actually does get a healthy amount of European funbucks of all varietiesa and Euros are her no.2 most SC'd currency...
Behind USD, of course
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I can't wait for the sheer numberfagging that is gonna plague this gen, this will obviously do slightly worse than advent and that is gonna trigger the incredible smugness of all of the numberapes, because Hololive did worse than... Hololive?
I mean, if they can't even find another pair of twins, are they REALLY trying????
You could go the other way and compare them to the recent Niji wave, but that just feels like kicking retards at this point.
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That wouldn't make Holo look bad though. There are ten trillion tribalists ready to start the next war when any other corpo gets close to Holo #s again (in the west obviously).
I'm probably just gonna retreat to my Holo fancords & pretend /vt/ and TVA don't exist for a few months just so I don't have to see the incessant numberfagging and bait posts.IB /vt/ blames it on the red one interacting with the homos.
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Is it me or has the whole industry fandom gone seriously downhill this year? There seems to be far more vitriol towards everything and anything not just in /vt/ but basically every platform now. Like /vt/'s schizophrenic hatred of everything has infected the entire industry (or at least the vocal parts of it).
NijiEN became an actual dumpsterfire, then the doxxsite sisters lost their secret hangout and had to start shitting up /vt/ and Twitter, like insects whose rock got turned over. Also Kirsche had to bring MAGA-tier political shitposting to western vtubing and for that fact alone I hope her vagina falls out.
The market's saturated. As growth stops, competition increases for the remaining resources, causing a rise in aggressive behaviour. Tale as old as time.
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But seriously I hope this thread doesn't get shit up because of that lol.
